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Over roughly five years, Mangiacapra compiled a 1,200-page "dossier" of personal profiles, graphic photos and text-message exchanges with roughly 50 of the priests who were his clients. We have in Italy many, many thousands of priests, so 100 is not so much." When Doane asked how many priests he had slept with, Mangiacapra replied, "I think about 100. "Each of them, each of them is totally singular in his little closet," Martel said.įrancesco Mangiacapra is a sex worker with a law degree who found one priest client led to another, and another. He suggests the largest group of men in the Vatican may be gay, but do not practice, and can actually be the most homophobic – and in interviews discovered a real range of sexual identities. He said he interviewed hundreds of priests, even cardinals: "It's 'Fifty Shades of Gay.' I mean, a lot of different kind of gay."
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"It is a large, silent community, a vast silent majority," said Frédéric Martel, a French author who spent four years researching his book, "In the Closet of the Vatican," about the gay underworld there. "If it was 40%, I wouldn't be surprised if it was 80%, I wouldn't be surprised." "How many gay priests do you think there are?" "So, there are these life experiences that I think people are missing in the church."ĭoane asked. "One of the things I lament is, if there were a case of, say, bullying in a parish or in a school, it would be wonderful for the gay priest to get up and say, 'Look, I was bullied as a boy,'" Father Martin said. He calls Pope Francis (the first pope to use the word "gay" publicly) the most pro-LGBTQ pope ever, though acknowledging that's "not a high bar." We have high suicide rates among LGBT youth, and we also have places in the world where gay people can be arrested and executed for being gay." "The teachings haven't changed, but the tone is very important."Īnd, Father Martin says, ultimately Catholic leaders need to shift their thinking: "It's a life issue.
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"The tone is new the teachings haven't changed?" asked Doane. It was a pretty strong sign of his support." I met with him in the Apostolic Palace, which is where he meets with presidents and diplomats. In 2019 Pope Francis requested a meeting with Father Martin: "The Vatican put our audience on the Pope's official schedule. "Their place is not in ministry or in consecrated life," he said.įather James Martin, a Jesuit priest and author, and the most high-profile advocate for LGBTQ Catholics, said, "I think that if you had suddenly all the gay priests in the United States come out, I think the Church would be forced to look at the question of homosexuality in a very different light." Father James Martin. While Pope Francis famously responded "Who am I to judge" when asked about gay priests during a papal press conference, he has also said that anyone with "deep seated" homosexual tendencies shouldn't be a priest. "It is a slow-moving cancer," Father Frederick said. They were encouraged from the top, and the beginning, to keep quiet.ĭoane asked, "What's the effect of this culture of silence on the church?" He said his seminary where he trained to be a priest was a "warehouse" of young men struggling with their sexuality.